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A New York husband built wealth behind his wife's back and expected praise — but Dave Ramsey says his 'good intent' cost her something important

Typically, if you’re hiding things from your partner when it comes to money, it’s because your finances are in trouble. You’re overspending, or you made a bad investment, or you have debt you don’t want them to know about.

But a recent caller to The Ramsey Show had the opposite problem. He made all the right decisions when it comes to money, but he was keeping it all a secret from his wife that they were in an amazing place financially.

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John from New York City told hosts Jade Warshaw and Dave Ramsey that after the pandemic, he and his wife bought an apartment, then had a child, then moved to a bigger house. Still, he wasn’t stressed by their 30-year mortgage, and the family “kept living [their] life very humble.”

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But then he suddenly got a different job that paid more, and then back-to-back promotions. He said that he shared the promotions with his wife, “but she doesn’t really know how much money” he actually makes. So, he “quietly started to use the extra income to change [their] future.”

He paid off their cars, made home improvements, and opened IRAs, Roth IRAs and a 401(k) with his wife’s employer.

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At one point, I even increased her weekly contribution to 75%,” John said.

Now, he’s close to paying off their mortgage.

“We’ve gone from 30 years of chains almost to the finish line,” he said, wanting to know whether to tell her now or to wait. “Should I tell her now, or should I just wait and do things the way I’ve been doing them, and eventually give to my family the best Christmas they could possibly imagine? By just saying, ‘Guys, we’re rich. We made it.’”

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Good intentions, bad plan

Warshaw told John that she thought his heart was in the right place, but asked: “Why didn’t you want your wife to be a part of it all along?”

John said that it was like “a race that [he was] running” with himself. While he felt like he did want to share the excitement with her “because this is [their] life, [their] family,” he said at the same time: “I think that maybe she doesn’t need to carry the weight of the race that I decide to run.”

He added that his wife is happy, and that “she sacrifices without knowing” because “she doesn’t see the money [...] in [their] account.”

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Ramsey interjected somberly to bring up “the widow that [he had] dealt with when their husband did this.” The husband thought they were giving their wife a gift, but instead “left her ill-equipped to handle the real world when he died,” Ramsey explained.

Ramsey said that he agreed with Warshaw that John had “good intent,” but he said that John had also “robbed” his wife of her part in the relationship.

“It’s like you’re giving your daughter a gift, instead of having a full-grown woman walking beside you and enjoying carrying the weight and being your partner, and those kinds of things,” he said. “That’s been taken from her.”

Ramsey also brought up his own personal experience of how not communicating with your partner about money, and leaving one person to make all the financial decisions, backfired in his own marriage.

He said that before he and his wife “went broke,” his wife “used to say things like, ‘Whatever you want to do, honey.’” And although “she didn’t want to fool with it,” he said he “drove the dadgum car off a cliff.”

Even though John had done the opposite, and he and his wife were now in a great situation, Ramsey said it still ends up leaving the other partner “without the emotional muscle to carry on if something happens.”

The patterns we fall into

Warshaw reiterated that she thought John had the best of intentions, and speculated that maybe this couple had simply fallen into a familiar pattern, where one person who is more inclined to lead takes the reins, and the other doesn’t protest.

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“I think you guys leaned into what you were most comfortable with, not necessarily what was best for each of you going forward in a partnership,” Warshaw said. “You’re more bent towards being a nerd, she’s more bent towards ‘whatever you want, honey,’ but sometimes we have to press ourselves to be what’s better for the partnership.”

Taking the lead on finances is one thing, but hiding financial decisions from your partner is another — even if you have good intentions. It takes away the other person’s agency, their choice to be involved and offer opinions, and their awareness of the financial situation they are in. It also takes away their chance to support you.

But being an ostrich about money in your relationship is also not okay — and it also does both partners a disservice.

Ramsey said that moving forward, John should sit down with his wife once a month and go over their finances so they are both on the same page.

“I want her to spend 15 to 20 minutes with you looking over where all the money’s going and being a grown-up and making the decisions with her husband, and being aware of what things cost, what it takes to live,” he said.

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