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The Ramsey Show urges one important move that he needs to make to cut down on his repayment timeline. The Ramsey Show/YouTube

LA dad racked up $140K in debt during a ‘life-or-death’ crisis. Here's why The Ramsey Show hosts say his pay down plan is a 'total scam'

When Dave from LA called The Ramsey Show, he was looking for help out of a “crazy” situation (1).

Dave went through a family crisis a few years earlier that was “life or death,” he told the hosts. Unfortunately, because of it he went into a whopping $140k of credit card debt.

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Thankfully, the crisis was resolved and “the money was well spent,” he said, but the fallout is brutal. Dave has since been juggling multiple credit cards with balances of $22,000, $30,000 and more, at 25 to 32% interest.

Dave says, “It’s killing me”. Here’s what the co-hosts of The Ramsey Show had to say.

“Get more money in the door”

Dave pulls in roughly $8,400 a month, but every dollar is already spoken for. His mortgage eats up about half his take-home pay, and after covering the rest of his bills, he tells the hosts he’s left with “just enough for gas in the car.”

His mortgage will drop by $1,500 in March, but even that relief didn’t convince the hosts that he should hang on to the idea of keeping what he considers to be a good mortgage rate.

“Change your mindset on the home debt,” Dr. John Delony told him. Delony advised that Dave should surrender some of his fixed ideas so that he could run the plan they would help him put together.

Dave mentioned that an agency promised a quick fix for his credit card debt, but the hosts weren’t buying it, with Delony calling it a scam.

Warshaw urged him to exhaust every effort to make more money, saying he should be thinking, “‘What can I do to get more money in the door?’”

Warshaw added a controversial idea, “Can you take your kid with you to do some DoorDash and UberEats or do grocery runs for folks because that's what you need to do.”

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A $140,000 balance growing at 30% interest balloons quickly, especially living in a city as expensive as Los Angeles, which has a cost of living about 50% higher than the national average (2). The average credit card APR sits around 23%, but many borrowers are stuck with higher rates where balances snowball faster than an average family’s budget can handle. It’s reasons like these why so many turn to gig work to plug the gaps.

Here’s how it could play out for Dave:

If he continues to pay a small amount over the minimum of $140,000 at about 30% APR, he could get trapped into over a decade of payments, and it would cost thousands in interest.

But with even a temporary income boost, like an extra $1,500 to $2,000 a month from overtime or gig work, his payoff timeline could shrink to three to five years, and the total interest paid drops dramatically.

This is why the Ramsey hosts pushed him toward “income mode.” In high-cost cities with high-interest debt, earning more isn’t just helpful, it’s the only way to make a meaningful dent. Warshaw’s suggestion about bringing his child along on gig shifts shows just how extreme the solutions have become for families who are trying to stay above water.

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Takeaways for facing big debt

  • Sometimes earning more matters: Experts at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) note that when debt balances get large, especially high-interest credit card or medical debt, boosting income often makes more of a difference than trimming an already tight budget (3).
  • Short bursts of extra money can slash your debt timeline: Even a few months of higher earnings can make a dent. A push for a few months, whether it’s overtime, seasonal work, or a side gig, can take time off repayment and cut hundreds or thousands of dollars in interest.
  • Gig work can be a smart tool: Platforms such as DoorDash, Instacart and Amazon Flex let workers choose hours around childcare, school schedules, or a partner’s shift. While there have been cases where workers have brought their children along while they delivered, there isn’t a public policy statement from these companies that states this is allowed (4). When it comes to potential earnings, it varies based on how many hours are worked, but a typical Uber driver in LA earns roughly $21/hour (5).
  • Medical bills are often negotiable: The CFPB advises that patients have some leverage. Hospitals often offer income-based hardship discounts, zero-interest payment plans, and itemized bill reviews that can help you uncover errors (6).
  • Stay away from debt-settlement companies that push you to stop paying: The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) says this is a major red flag. Reputable credit-counseling agencies won’t tell you to ignore your bills. Settlement outfits often do and it’s a tactic that can lead to fees, collections, or even lawsuits (7)

Dave’s call is just one example of what can happen when life blindsides you. The Ramsey Show hosts didn’t promise him an easy road, because there isn’t one. For anyone staring down a mountain of crisis debt, you may not be able to control how you got here, but you can control your next move, and that first uncomfortable step forward can often be when your comeback happens.

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YouTube (1); Payscale (2); Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (3, 6); CNN (4); Salary.com (5); Federal Trade Commission (7)

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